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 Post subject: re: 'Convert or die' game divides Christians
PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:33 am 
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I wouldn't either, Founder.
But I also will not give it's creators the satisfaction of 'negative' attention, or help in building up any absurd---yet profitable---notoriety around it by making a fuss about it, either.
(Yet, damn it, I've already made two posts about it---D'Oh..... :x )

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Alright I have a question: What is true in the bible? (I guess New Testament only)

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I can't answer that one, Neal.
Technically, I am a Christian. But other than trying to treat other people as well as we can while we live on this Earth, I really don't pay much attention to the rest. I figure it's up to God to sort that out.


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I'm generally in the same boat with you but isn't what the man actually said, the only thing true in the New Testament? I was born and raised Roman Catholic, I've read the bible and still think the same thing; everything just contradicts each other. Its eerie. I've only just realized this.

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This isn't that big of a deal... but it just goes to show the influence religious controversies hold on our society.

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I'd lik eto know what Tim Lahaye has to say about the game. Anyone heard his opinion?


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The obscene irony is that this is released just in time for Christmas... you know the holiday where we celebrate the birth of Christ whom Christians SAY the follow. I can't imagine Christ thinking this is a-okay. It's obscene. Here's the comments number for Walmart if you agree... 800 331-0085. You have to go through a bit of email "hell" (pun intended) to actualy speak with a live person. I was told Wal-Mart has no intention of pulling the game.

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Neal W. Syrette wrote:
Alright I have a question: What is true in the bible? (I guess New Testament only)



You can't have the New without the Old.

The New Testament compliments the Old. It magnifies what really counted from the Old Testament, which is the Ten Commandments.

Jesus said, when asked about the Commandments "Love God with all of your heart, and your neighbor as yourself."

When you look at the Commandments, the first 4 are all about loving and honoring God. The last 6 are about loving and honoring your fellow man (or woman for the uneducated folk).

That's basically it.

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 Post subject: re: 'Convert or die' game divides Christians
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Well I thought I'd try to avoid the biased media's reports on this game since they are more than likely just going by word of mouth and probably haven't even seen the game much less played it.

So let's see what Joe Gamer (Chris Dahlen in this case) thinks of the game after he plays it.

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Spirituality almost never thrives in the logical rules of video games: Christian games usually just slap Roman centurions and Bible trivia over reheated action titles. And secular RPGs that let you choose a deity for your priest are really just letting you choose between stat bonuses. Ultima IV, a 1985 game that expected players to pity the weak and give money to beggars, remains one of the few titles that makes you practice what it preaches.

By putting more stress on converting your enemies than on killing them, Left Behind: Eternal Forces—a tie-in for the millions-selling book and movie franchise—becomes more pious than the average game. But it still plays like a budget strategy game at a premium price. It's been a year since the Rapture, and you're fighting the Antichrist, who assaults you with troops or demoralizes you with electric guitars and foul language. You'll build your forces by proselytizing everyone you run into, which is surprisingly fun; badger a few pedestrians, and suddenly you're leading an army of do-gooders in neat sweater vests. But the apocalypse is a letdown. The whole battle takes place in a drab Manhattan, and the Antichrist has the advantage: He doesn't have to wrestle with fluky controls, minions who can't follow orders, or chronic hangs and crashes. There's no good way to manage your forces or track your resources, and attacks are fast and hard to counter. The missionary work is much more fun than the military action—but if that's the lesson they're preaching, they sure make you learn it the hard way.

Beyond the game: The fun facts between missions will teach you the truth of the Bible and the sketchiness of evolutionary science. It also pushes Christian artists, in-game advertisers, and Duane Reade drugstores.

Worth playing for: The kitschy writing. When you first start wandering the streets, asking random New Yorkers if they've seen your pal Brad Clayton anywhere, you'll know this came from a flyover state.

Frustration sets in when: On top of resources that can't act independently and controls that damn you for mistakes that aren't your fault, the game resets most of your progress between missions—giving you no incentive to pray the extra mile.

Final judgment: Not half as fulfilling as God Hand.

A.V. Club Rating: D


Doesn't exactly sound like the anti-muslim bloodfest the leftist media would have you believe now does it?

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oh I feel so much better... they try and convert them first THEN they kill them... sheesh. It's OBSCENE!!! The antithesis of Christ-like behavior. how disconnected from reality does one have to be to NOT see that?

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