Q'elle'sar wrote:
I never said the JCIS Deity doesn't exist
To the contrary, I Believe He & his relatives are the source for most of the strife caused in Ancient Times & the source of 90% of the world's religions.
You may as well have said it, since you continually right him off. I would like to know how God created all the strife in the ancient times. He also is not the source of religion in the way you think. He gave one revelation, and that was polluted over time through the influence of man and spirits.
Q'elle'sar wrote:
Oh, I agree. Our Creator is far more important then the gods of yore (& I Believe your JCIS Deity is part of this later group, BTW). I'm not too convinced on the "'gods' who actually want to destroy us" bit. Not all of these greater spirits are "out to get us". In fact, looking at the mythological record some of these very beings might have been directly involved in our evolution (read the original version of "Genesis" written by the Sumerians to see what I mean
).
I have read up on more than you would care to think. Think about this. Let's say that in Eden Adam is at one with God, and from that he knows about creation, the zodiac, and all that is entailed. Now after the fall of man from eden (which in itself was started by a rebelious spirit saying "God is lying to you" in order to destroy man), the true creation story is known, but through all these lying spirits and man's corruption the story spreads and changes so that man now venerates these spirits instead, apart from a few tribes that keep the original. Soon a group of the fallen Agnles see the daughters of men, and decide to take wives for themselves, creating super intelligent offspring that create such things as the Pyramids and the temple mount at Balbek. These new beings start eating all mans food and cause nothing but trouble, and start genetic experiments etc (read the book of Enoch about them "sinning" against animals) on animals, creating trangenics, creating beasts that are not "after their own kind" (Genesis 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind), creating men that are half goat and half man, half bull half man etc. (think of the myths and egyptian glyphs). All hell has broken loose, and Gods sees that if he is ever to bring forth the messiah, the passover reconconciling mans sin anf fall from grace and allowing them to be "sons of God" in a ressusrection, something needs to happen. He finds a man named Noah who is "perfect in his generations" and tells him to build an ark for his family and "pure" animals. A giant flood comes and wipes out the evil upon the earth, but not entirely.
The family settles, but soon enough it starts to happen all over again. "And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth" (Genesis 10:8)". (What's interesting about this statement is that the Hebrew word translated as "mighty one" here is Gibborim, a word that is very similar in meaning to Nephilim. The gibborim are also a set of beings in many new age beliefs.) This nimrod decides to build a tower (a gate of god). There are many writings that express the opinion that Nimrod was associated with the god of Mars (Dante's poem for example). In the writtings of Josephus it is alluded to that Nimrod was making the tower waterproof (why would he do that unless he was expecting another event from God, and why would he be expecting that?) Let's say that Nimrod was builing something to open a portal (check out the pyramid on the US seal), similar to what Crowley eventually did, to bring back the fallen angels. Now God see's this, and remembering his promise not to bring another flood, decides on another more mercifull option.
GENESIS 11:5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city
Certainly man has built many structures in the ancient times, but none got the attention of God in this matter. It was more than a mere tower.
The new tribes spread around the entire globe with their new languages, and soon are again being lied to by spirits as they record their stories about the creation and the flood, and they all have their own different stories, yet still similar to the original revelation, and secret mystery religions and groups hold on to the secrets told and forbidden information.
Further along in history God decides to continue his plan for the salvation of man, and part of that plan is correcting the myths. He finds a good and humble man named Abram (later has his name changed to Abraham) and says "Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee", to get him away from the corupted words of fallen spirits. Abraham is promised that his faithfullness will be rewarded (Genesis 15:5 And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be). Eventually Abrahams seed are in Egypt, now comprising 12 tribes, and enslaved in a land not promised to Abraham. God finds a man named Moses wandering in the desert and tells him to go and free his people, which he does through the help of God, and leads them back into the promised land. Through Moses God corrects all the mistakes and gives him the correct story, and the rest as they say is history.
Now think about this - Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noe [were], so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Do a search on transgenics and chimeras and see what man is up to these days. Do also a search about US marines in the ancient city of Babylon, and ask yourself, what were they searching for (nephilim DNA perhaps)......and did they find it?
US marines offer Babylon apologyThe Pentagon Plan to Create Mutant "Super-Soldiers"Q'elle'sar wrote:
The answers are all there, X. The Symbols & the Rituals observed everyday by millions of people (but not understood at all by the masses) all tell it like it is.
Indeed the answers are there. The both of us are more similar than we would like to admit. We are simply looking at exactly the same thing but from different sides of an ever expanding rift, so we have two entirely different perspectives. I have walked both sides. Let me tell you a little story that I don't tell very often because it's something I'm not proud of...
When I was 15 we had an end-of-year Rugby League party at the clubhouse with all the teams and officials etc. While all the parents were getting drunk at the bar, several of us were messing around in the dressing rooms when a couple of the older guys who were into the occult decided it would be fun to start messing around with a wigi board. I watched with keen interest and soon joined in, at first thinking they were simply messing around. I found out I was wrong when only two of us did it and I could feel it moving on it's own. I became quite interested in the whole subject and soon began doing it secretly in my bedroom that I shared with my older brother, which by the way is only 10 metres from me as I type this, since I have just recently moved into the house we grew up in as kids and is still owned by my parents. What I was doing was real, as I received a lot of info from spirits, but rarely was it truth. Within a couple of weeks I started getting woken up by a strange voice calling my name. This evolved into thumping on my chest. I could no longer sleep in the room and began sleeping on the lounge in the living room. Two weeks later my elder brother starts telling the family he is having really weird dreams. By this stage I was nearly 17 and didn't want to mention anything, because I knew I would be in be in serious shit with my parents. It all came to a head about a week after that when one morning my brother comes screaming into the living room where I was sleeping saying he could feel his teeth growing, hair growing in his throat, and a overwhelming feeling of despair. I could see by the look on his face and the tremble in his voice he was serious. Next he took a whiff of his hands and nearly puked.
Now all my life I have had serious sinus problems and can only remember smelling about three things in my life (something I inherited from my grandmother unfortunately, though I have had friends tell me that they believe my brain shut it down as a self preservation method because of the smell of my farts
). Anyway he thrusts his hands in my face and I couldn't help but gag. The smell went down my throat and and I later had to gargle listerine to get rid of it. I have never smelled many things in my life so I don't have much to compare it to, but I got the sense of a rotting corpse, I'm serious. Also when he woke me with his yelling down the hallway, there was an unexplainable gloom to the room about me. After the events I described above transpired, and seeing the terror on his face. Something made me throw my arms around him. I told him I loved him over and over again (something that seems strange to me in retrospect since I'm certainly not the lovey dovey type) and suddenly a glow came through the window and lit up up the room. We both stopped what we were doing, dumbfounded by this light, and it seemed to calm him down. Now you might think that is all bullshit, but believe me I wish it was. That event scarred my brother mentally so bad that the doctors believed he had a psychotic episode and put him on medication. He lost all contact with his friends and has never been the same since, never had a job, never had a family, but a lot of that has to do with the medication they have tested on him. Since that day I have tried to explain to my parents that I witnessed it also, but somehow they don't believe me, and frankly, I don't blame them. The medication he has taken for the past 17 years messed him up so bad that he has the liver of a lifetime alcoholic and will soon need a liver transplant. The brother I grew up with and adored is gone. Now I could sit here and blame it all on the doctors, but unfortunately I fear in my heart that I am to partly, if not totally to blame, and that is something I will have to live with for the rest of my life. This is only one such event after messing with wigi boards and spirits, there are several others, which soon stopped after accepting Christ as my saviour. This is why God warns us about listening to spirits, and not to have contact with any of them, it's just too bloody dangerous, especially if you are deceived into thinking you know what you're doing. The one Good thing I can take from that event is what started my interest instead in God, and he has brought me blessing beyond anything I could have asked for. Even though I am now living in that same house and sleep only metres from that room, I feel no fear, I have faith that I am now protected.
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"Sons Of Gods" 
Thoth taught Humanity the arts & the sciences. Not Marduk (the "Christian" Satan). And if Thoth was a "Fallen Angel", well, that's fine. It still doesn't destroy my cosmology since your IAM/Elohim/Jehova/God/Allah (or whatever other linguistic you want to use in place of his Tetragammation) is no different, IMHO. Enki. Enlil. Marduk. Ishtar. Inanna. Jehova. Thoth. Osiris. Isis. Horus. Seth. They were all gods. They definately were not Nephylim 
). I would also ask the question 
"He" tells us "there is only one path"! If this is True, why give us Choice? Oh yes, "we must Choose 'His' Love". Why? Is "He" not Perfect? Is "He" not Omnicognescent & already Know what we are going to Choose anyway? Does "He" not Unquestionably Love his Creation & accept that we are Imperfect & have faults? Why must we then bow down to his "Commandmants" & ask for "Salvation" if "He" already knows our Choices & that we are Imperfect whilst being Unconditionally Loving?