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Unread postPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 2:57 am 
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That simulation actually damns your perspective.

Notice at the start how the 'blue line' and spiral are at the same trajectory?


Yes their origin is on the same trajectory, but the two jets are shot out at different angles.

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Now if the rocket was launched upwards from there to space, sure. That would create the proper conditions to make the simulation accurate.

But there is no way a rocket will streak across the sky making a line, stop, and then suddenly create a perfect tight spiral.


That's not what happened, or how the effect was created. It's simply a matter of perspective. The simulation was created in a 3d physics engine, if it perfectly renders what happened, then how can you dispute it?

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It has everything to do with it. If an obvious disorder is apparent, you can then see the order of the photos. I can't remember what site, I think they were from a few.


Oh... its in order because you say they are... ok. :?


No, not because I say they are, but the physical evidence speaks for itself. Did it happen in this order....

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No biggie, the order is moot; that line proves the rocket came from the horizon and proves that the angle presented in the simulation is impossible. And that is what is important at this point.


The order does have importance, because it shows it was created by gases that slowly dispersed. If it wasn't a rocket, then what was it? The video of the event shows the spiral coming from the centre, then stopping and them spreads outward into a white mist, so you can't then say that the misty white cloud suddenly turned into the spiraling white dot, it defies the video evidence, so by this also we know the order.

Anyway, I'm not trying to get into a debate or dispute with you, simply trying to help answer what I believe are legitimate questions from you.


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please explain the blue beam since the ICBM did not come from that mountain so the ICBM while spinning perfect white spirals shot a tight corkscrew down toward the mountainside??


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You are assuming that blue beam came down to earth, instead of the other way around, and that it came from directly behind the mountain.

These two videos pretty much explained all my questions and doubts....

This is a confirmed russian rocket back in 2006 doing pretty much the same thing....





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So either the ICBM fired from the White sea skipped off of that mountain or the ICBM was shot from that mountain. Neither is correct.


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Just because there's a mountain in front of it doesn't mean it came from directly behind mountain. Last weekend while driving home from 200km away I saw a huge storm front heading at me and I thought at the time my home must be copping it. When I got home two hours later it looked as if I had barely gotten any closer to it. It's very hard to judge distance in the sky, especially when looking in 2D.

Anyway, I was quite astounded when I first saw this, but I looked into it with an open mind, and I'm convinced there's really nothing sinister about it, unless of course you're talking about what the rocket is used for.


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Looks like we have reached a consensus. We still arent sure. :wink:



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I dont know if this theory has already posted in relation to this story. I had a quick look through but couldn't see anything.
Theres some other stuff toward the end unrelated. I saw another documentry last night about harrp a much better one it's here http://www.bbc5.tv/eyeplayer/video/holes-heaven but I'm not sure if you can get it outside the uk.






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