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Searching for ET, But No Evidence Yet

By Phil Larson

Thank you for signing the petition asking the Obama Administration to acknowledge an extraterrestrial presence here on Earth.

The U.S. government has no evidence that any life exists outside our planet, or that an extraterrestrial presence has contacted or engaged any member of the human race. In addition, there is no credible information to suggest that any evidence is being hidden from the public's eye.

However, that doesn't mean the subject of life outside our planet isn't being discussed or explored. In fact, there are a number of projects working toward the goal of understanding if life can or does exist off Earth. Here are a few examples:

SETI—the Search for ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence—was originally stood up with help from NASA, but has since been moved to other sources of private funding. SETI's main purpose is to act as a giant ear on behalf of the human race, pointing an array of ground-based telescopes towards space to listen for any signal from another world.
Kepler is a NASA spacecraft in Earth orbit that's main goal is to search for Earth-like planets. Such a planet would be located in the "Goldilocks" zone of a distant solar system—not too hot and not too cold—and could potentially be habitable by life as we know it. The Kepler mission is specifically designed to survey our region of the Milky Way galaxy to discover Earth-sized, rocky planets in or near the habitable zone of the star (sun) they orbit.

The Mars Science Laboratory, Curiosity, is an automobile-sized rover that NASA is launching soon. The rover's onboard laboratory will study rocks, soils, and other geology in an effort to detect the chemical building blocks of life (e.g., forms of carbon) on Mars and will assess what the Martian environment was like in the past to see if it could have harbored life.

A last point: Many scientists and mathematicians have looked with a statistical mindset at the question of whether life likely exists beyond Earth and have come to the conclusion that the odds are pretty high that somewhere among the trillions and trillions of stars in the universe there is a planet other than ours that is home to life.

Many have also noted, however, that the odds of us making contact with any of them—especially any intelligent ones—are extremely small, given the distances involved.

But that's all statistics and speculation. The fact is we have no credible evidence of extraterrestrial presence here on Earth.

Phil Larson works on space policy and communications at the White House Office of Science & Technology Policy


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when then president jimmy carter asked cia man george bush about
ETs, george told him, that information is on a need to know basis and you
don't have a need to know!
if that doesn't tell you two things, then you are lost:
1. the power of the cia
2. ET's/alien existance


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Reptilians.

There are no aliens. They assure you.


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Funny...I watched a program last night on TV where the Brits acknowledged there IS something out there they cant explain. Maybe it was just the way the initial question was phrased that let them give a neutral answer like that.

Its on the History Channel and the repeat starts in about 20 mins. Its called 'Secret Access' ....UFO's on the record. New evidence looks at the very real possibility of alien visitions.

Its not your average UFO show either, this one deals with military/police/airport sightings with proof.



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so for us damned yanks, it's on monday night?

like i've said before, you limys, mates and blokes need to speak english!


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LOL..yep..its 5.40pm in Idaho right now..not sure whether your History channel shows the same programmes at the same time though. But its there somewhere if you can access the History channel online. :D



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They don't dare show us the same programs at the same time, or even allow some programs to be shown right over into the US from Canada.


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I do love this part from the Whitehouse:

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Many scientists and mathematicians have looked with a statistical mindset at the question of whether life likely exists beyond Earth and have come to the conclusion that the odds are pretty high that somewhere among the trillions and trillions of stars in the universe there is a planet other than ours that is home to life.


Basically "hey, we agree something is out there"

but what bugs me most, and still bugs me... is that they discovered life on Mars back in 1996.
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Allan Hills 84001 (commonly abbreviated ALH 84001[1]) is a meteorite that was found in Allan Hills, Antarctica on December 27, 1984 by a team of U.S. meteorite hunters from the ANSMET project. Like other members of the group of SNCs (shergottite, nakhlite, chassignite), ALH 84001 is thought to be from Mars. However, it does not fit into any of the previously discovered SNC categories. On discovery, its mass was 1.93 kilograms (4.3 lb). It made its way into headlines worldwide in 1996 when scientists announced that it might contain evidence for microscopic fossils of Martian bacteria based on carbonate globules observed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Hills_84001


As far as I am concerned the evidence is overwhelming that life existed on Mars, it's not everyday you get fossilized aliens showing up at your doorstep. (photo attached)

Also another problem I have with the whitehouse statement is that no one is able to explain why Mars keeps pushing out methane in the summer.. and only in the summer...

The point being that something is decaying when thawing... or something is living and spewing out methane when it's active in the summer..

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New research reveals there is hope for Mars yet. The first definitive detection of methane in the atmosphere of Mars indicates the planet is still alive, in either a biologic or geologic sense, according to a team of NASA and university scientists.

"Methane is quickly destroyed in the Martian atmosphere in a variety of ways, so our discovery of substantial plumes of methane in the northern hemisphere of Mars in 2003 indicates some ongoing process is releasing the gas," said Dr. Michael Mumma of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md. "At northern mid-summer, methane is released at a rate comparable to that of the massive hydrocarbon seep at Coal Oil Point in Santa Barbara, Calif."

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/mars/ ... thane.html



Then nevermind life was detected on mars with a 1976 lander.

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The results were surprising and interesting: the GCMS gave a negative result; the PR gave a negative result, the GEX gave a negative result, and the LR gave a positive result.[15] Viking scientist Patricia Straat recently stated, "Our (LR) experiment was a definite positive response for life, but a lot of people have claimed that it was a false positive for a variety of reasons."[16] Most scientists now believe that the data were due to inorganic chemical reactions of the soil; however, this view may be changing after the recent discovery of near-surface ice near the Viking landing zone. Some scientists still believe the results were due to living reactions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_1


So we have fossils of life from Mars, and we have methane showing up in the summer, we have positive results of lander tests .... honestly I don't know what else would convince people other than someone catching the flu from a Martian bacteria.

In my opinion the proof is so strong now that it is going to take someone to convince me life doesn't or at least didn't exist on mars as compared to if life does.

It's not Marvin the Martian living on Mars... but the alien in question is staring at you in the below photograph.



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Mars is a little gassy in the summer. Nothing to see there.

What summer? It's a sphere. That's like saying "earth winter". Sandy's perception of earth winter may differ from yours.


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