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LoL there's like 1/2 a trillion dollars there in untaxed revenue the states could hop on right away...

Never tried the stuff... nor do I plan it.. .but watch .. if this recession keeps going your going to see a new market open... states will start legalizing it right and left and tax it like no tomorrow...


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* Revenues based on state-by-state marijuana consumption, assuming pot were legalized. Source: Prof. Jeffrey Miron, "Budgetary Implications of Marijuana Prohibitions," June 2005.

And those are old figures too.

It needs to be reduced to the same status as alcohol... since the real facts are it does less damage than the grog. The ones that are lobbying for it to remain illegal are guess who?...Big Pharma. They have pegged the market for M based medicines now but they will still try and stop it. In my view the only reason it isnt already legal is because they couldnt find a way to tax it before now.

Edit...hmmm thinking about it Ive just realized it will have other complications. You will have to have drug testing alongside breath testing for drivers...some arent going to like that. But you have to admit there is nothing worse than being stuck behind a drunk/stoned driver.



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Government drug adviser David Nutt sacked

Professor David Nutt asked to resign after his claims that ecstasy and LSD were less dangerous than alcohol

Professor David Nutt, the government's chief drug adviser, has been sacked a day after claiming that ecstasy and LSD were less dangerous than alcohol.

Nutt incurred the wrath of the government when he claimed in a paper that alcohol and tobacco were more harmful than many illegal drugs, including LSD, ecstasy and cannabis.

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As soon as this Thursday, November 5, the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee could vote on an amendment that will legally prevent some of the government's top advisers from even discussing the idea of legalizing or decriminalizing drugs as a solution to the failed "war on drugs."

Yes, you read that right. The Senate just might censor its own policy advisers from giving science-based advice.

The censorship amendment's author, Sen. Charles Grassley (R-IA), is trying to attach the speech prohibition onto an otherwise positive bill that will create a blue ribbon commission to study our nation's failed criminal justice and drug policies. The commission is supposed to make recommendations for ways to improve the system, but how can they do that with the blindfold that Sen. Grassley wants to put on them? Please take action below and tell your senators to oppose the censorship amendment!
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Yeah, I don't think so.

There is too much actual benefit from the Hemp industry alone to allow the legalization of that plant genus.


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You will have to have drug testing alongside breath testing for drivers..


Nah, IF sensibility came through; a field sobriety test is more then sufficient to show impairment.

Have it on film to hold up in court, done and done.


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There is too much actual benefit from the Hemp industry alone to allow the legalization of that plant genus.

Yes but the manufacturing hemp industry and the 'smoke' are 2 different things...because they are 2 different plants. It was the cotton industry lobbying for contracts that killed the hemp industry...

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Nah, IF sensibility came through; a field sobriety test is more then sufficient to show impairment.

Have it on film to hold up in court, done and done.

A seasoned smoker can pass one of those...and still think he's good to drive. Thats not always the case...but I agree with you for a field test first. :)



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A seasoned smoker can pass one of those...and still think he's good to drive.


Yeah, but he's easy to spot...He's the guy doing 15 mph on the expressway!
Uhh...so I've been told.
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Uhh...so I've been told.

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Yes but the manufacturing hemp industry and the 'smoke' are 2 different things...because they are 2 different plants. It was the cotton industry lobbying for contracts that killed the hemp industry...


Cotton was just one of several that lobbied against Hemp. But if you notice, only one plant species was ever actually made illegal; the one that could be manipulated by fear and made into a moral crusade. Naturally though, the differences between the two plants was conveniently ignored once the one was made illegal (save for an ironic short reprieve during WWII) and the rest is, as they say, history.

All things said and done it is a sick and sad state of affairs. Hemp is a miracle plant with amazing and versatile uses.

As for weed- I think Bill Hicks said it best:




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only one plant species was ever actually made illegal; the one that could be manipulated by fear and made into a moral crusade.

Yes...............and because of that judgement the rest of our govts followed you. You guys really have a lot to answer for dont you? At least the current studies are showing the truth and there is hope for those that use it for medicinal purposes...and leisure. :)

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All things said and done it is a sick and sad state of affairs. Hemp is a miracle plant with amazing and versatile uses.

Agreed...and its a pretty good stock feed too. :D



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