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| Author: | The Founder [ Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Army to recruit non-Americans and offer US citizenship |
WASHINGTON -- The armed forces, already struggling to meet recruiting goals, are considering expanding the number of noncitizens in the ranks -- including disputed proposals to open recruiting stations overseas and putting more immigrants on a faster track to US citizenship if they volunteer -- according to Pentagon officials. Full Story Founders Note: The Roman Empire used this tactic in the latter years of the Empire. The Roman Army was made up of foreigners from provinces distant to Rome, who gained Roman citizenship after completing their term of service Full Story This raises several questions, like why is the US following the Roman Empire Example that failed? This exact reason was noted as ONE of the reasons for the Roman Downfall, as the non-Citizens were not as willing to fight to defend the Roman Homeland. |
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| Author: | Neal W. Syrette [ Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | re: Army to recruit non-Americans and offer US citizenship |
Quote: Founders Note:
The Roman Empire used this tactic in the latter years of the Empire. LOL this is old news then? (Didn't you wonder why all the illegals were given amnesty.) |
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| Author: | The Founder [ Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | re: Army to recruit non-Americans and offer US citizenship |
It's just slightly unsettling... I felt like I was reading a 2000 year old press release when seeing that story. The Roman Empire used literally the same tactic.. I don't see how this will be successful. |
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| Author: | Holy [ Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | re: Army to recruit non-Americans and offer US citizenship |
They, as most Americans, dont read history books. The only books we read are Stars and People magazines. |
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| Author: | Crazyhorse [ Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | re: Army to recruit non-Americans and offer US citizenship |
Quote: This raises several questions, like why is the US following the Roman Empire Example that failed? This exact reason was noted as ONE of the reasons for the Roman Downfall, as the non-Citizens were not as willing to fight to defend the Roman Homeland.
Founder, the US is nothing like the Roman Empire. Yes, we are using more foreigners in the Army. But, at least these people are trying to become productive citizens through the proper channels. Sometimes, people take for granted how GREAT America really is. People would risk their lives to have a chance to be an American. As much as some on SQLSPACE despise America(and our foreign policies), this is truly the best country in the world. And do you really think that we would need outsiders to protect us from invaders? Every Red-neck, gun-toting American would have a field day on invaders. IMHO. |
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| Author: | Chapman [ Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | re: Army to recruit non-Americans and offer US citizenship |
This is old news in a historical sense. I believe the North Federal armies did this during the civil war, immediately drafting the poor Irish immigrants off the boat. *Their chances of survival would have been a whole lot less in that war. And I believe that was one of the major issues that culminated in the 1863 draft riots in New York. However with the current wars in Iraq and Afghanistan; I agree they seem to draw more of a Roman comparison. |
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| Author: | InfamousEric [ Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | re: Army to recruit non-Americans and offer US citizenship |
We were talking about this back in April Full Story |
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| Author: | beenie [ Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: re: Army to recruit non-Americans and offer US citizensh |
Crazyhorse wrote: [...] do you really think that we would need outsiders to protect us from invaders? Every Red-neck, gun-toting American would have a field day on invaders. IMHO.
[...] AND ... do you , HORSE really think that IRAQIS would need outsiders (AL-QUIDA , IRAN,ETC ) to protect them from AMERICAN invaders? Every muslim, gun-toting IRAQI would have a field day on invaders. ha ha ha ...... you just don't get do you? orwell wrote about your sort in 1948 ... he wrote about your mental disease called doublethink .... holding two polar opposite thoughts and believing both at the same time !!!!!! |
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| Author: | beenie [ Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | re: Army to recruit non-Americans and offer US citizenship |
back to the topic : to me its yet another sign that that america is in her last days ... |
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| Author: | The Founder [ Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | re: Army to recruit non-Americans and offer US citizenship |
crazyhorse wrote: Every Red-neck, gun-toting American would have a field day on invaders.
As well would be every college educated computer geek like myself. But that isn't the point I am trying to make, the point is that this literally was a 'one off fluke' at one point in Roman History that turned into a normal process. I do not actually disagree with it, these immigrants are willing to take a bullet to save this country... they deserve citizenship. I am just pointing out that there is a distinct parallel between this News Story, and a very similar one from 2000 years ago. |
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